The Myth of Discovery
By Robert Hurwitz
Is it possible for a great talent to go unnoticed in music?
More than two decades ago, the eminent author Doris Lessing attempted to publish a manuscript under a pseudonym, Jane Somers, and the book was rejected by every publisher to whom she sent it, including her own. It ultimately had a small run, was ignored by the critics, and only when she went public as to her own authorship was the book (and a follow-up) finally taken seriously.*
Lessing was interested in showing the difficulties that unknown authors had in terms of not only reaching a public, but in being taken seriously by publishing houses.
I have often thought about this story as it relates to what we do at Nonesuch, where we are presented with many new and often worthy demos every week, as well as solicitations from artists, lawyers, and managers. On top of that, we seek out, through our staff’s collective curiosity, the musicians we read about, hear about from friends, or trip over on the Internet.
Of course, there are profound differences between the book publishing and the music business. One can experience a song in a few minutes or an entire album in an hour, while it takes a longer time to go through a manuscript—although one editor friend told me that just as we can get a sense of a song or an artist in the first 30 seconds, he can get a sense of an author’s voice in a page (which makes me wonder how Lessing’s own editor could have missed her voice as completely as he/she apparently did).
All of this leads to a related question: is it possible for a great talent to go unnoticed in music? Further: can there be just one person who has recognized a talent and then, because of his or her actions, be deemed fully responsible for the world knowing that artist?
One of the most famous stories in record company annals is that of John Hammond discovering and signing Bob Dylan. As someone who grew up loving Bob Dylan and loving the legend of John Hammond, for years I believed that if Hammond had never been born, we would never have heard of Dylan. But in reading Dylan’s Chronicles it becomes clear that while Hammond was the first person in the music business to recognize Dylan’s talent, he did not “discover” him. On his own, Dylan began to gain a reputation in his early days performing in the Village; almost every peer he mentions ended up making records (even including Tiny Tim), and if it had not been Hammond, it would eventually been someone else. Of course, what was impressive about Hammond is that he knew to stay out of the way of Dylan’s talent, and did not try to steer him in a direction that was inappropriate. And of course, he fought to keep Dylan on the label until the public could fully appreciate his genius.
Likewise, there has not been a single Nonesuch artist that we “discovered” without someone tipping us off—whether it was a musician, a friend, a producer, a critic, or an article one of us read. In 1977, I spent a week in Corniglia, Italy, with the Italian trumpeter Enrico Rava and his wife Graciela; while I was there, the Ravas played records by two musicians I had never heard of, Astor Piazzolla and Caetano Veloso. If it hadn’t been then, I surely would have found out about them sooner or later, but at that point, almost no one in America knew either Caetano or Astor. But Graciella was an Argentine Italian, and was a friend of Piazzolla, and they both knew personally Caetano as well.
There are countless similar stories. Over lunch with the journalist Tim Page in 1981, he told me about a new composer named John Adams and his recording on 1750 Arch of Shaker Loops. I got a tape of a Naumberg Competition recital by an unknown singer named Dawn Upshaw from producer Tom Frost. Conductor Eric Stern first told me about Audra McDonald, and John Zorn wrote me a letter introducing himself and included a tape (but before that four people had told me about him). Omus Hirshbein, who once ran the music program at the 92nd St. Y, called me in early 1996, and said, “You have to go to Playwright’s Horizons and see a show called Floyd Collins.” Adam Guettel? Except for people who lived in the theater world, who knew Adam Guettel?
Dawn Upshaw, Caetano Veloso, John Zorn, Adam Guettel, and Audra McDonald all released their first major-label American albums on Nonesuch, but I certainly did not discover any of them.
I think it is always possible to be the first to hear someone’s talent, but I think the nature of talent is something that reaches beyond just one person, and becomes apparent to communities of listeners who come to it with a similar point of view.
For instance, the case of John Adams—it’s not just Nonesuch that “likes” John Adams. There is something in his music that has attracted the two most important classical publishers in America, G. Schirmer and Boosey & Hawkes (he has had deals with both); he has attracted dozens of important conductors (Esa-Pekka Salonen, Michael Tilson Thomas, Simon Rattle, Leonard Slatkin, David Zinman, Alan Gilbert), soloists (Emanuel Ax, Gidon Kremer, Leila Josephewicz), directors, choreographers, filmmakers, and authors, all of whom have heard something in his music that has touched them deeply. If Nonesuch were not part of the equation, John’s music would still be performed, heard, recorded, and widely admired around the world.
On occasion, in the long run, the music business can have a democratic nature. Ultimately people decide what it is they care for deeply, and if their interest continues after a brief, sensational moment (the kind of moment we often see in the pop music business), it is not because a record company spent a lot of money or because someone has manipulated the system. It’s because that music has the resilience to stand the test of time.
So who really is the first person to hear a great talent? Probably a music teacher, maybe a parent, possibly a friend, or possibly another musician. If the talent is really there, the chances are, the world will eventually hear about it.
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* Diary of a Good Neighbour (1983) and If the Old Could ... (1984)
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This discussion hinges largely on what level of notoriety you consider “unnoticed”. I would be inclined to say Ron Jarzombek is a great musician who is going unnoticed but I’ve obviously noticed him :)
I think there are quite a few artists who are underappreciated and many more who are appreciated in some area, circle or demographic but not beyond that. None of my colleagues listen to Jarzombek, Pain of Salvation, Vasks, Rautavaara, Kayo Dot or Cynic. I think they’ve all made very important contributions recently.
The other thing is that as entertainment moves increasingly to an on-demand model, it becomes harder for artists to place themselves in the public eye as the notion of the public eye changes and becomes more fragmentary or divided. I don’t know if there ever will be another Elvis or Beatles or Wagner. It might happen but I’m not sure how one would go about gaining that sort of ubiquitous and persistent notoriety. Afterall, if I did, I imagine I’d be trying to follow that path :)
this is something i’ve been thinking about a lot lately. especially in regard a friend, alec, who is now finding success in the band clap your hands say yeah. for as long as i’ve known him (shortly after i moved to philadelphia about three years ago) he’s kept in touch with a large group of friends, many of whom have known him for much of his life. as a person folks just seem to be drawn to him. and as an artist i, and everyone else, always knew he’d be successful. its not just that he’s a good writer, or player, or that his voice is great. there’s a kind of gestalt that–i don’t think i’m alone in my observation, goes well beyond the sum of alec’s parts. like anyone i’ve met my share of talented folks. and none of them have this thing. even if they all gwoke up tomorrow with number one hits, survived niagara falls in a barrel, and became megastars they still wouldn’t have it.
even though i certainly didn’t discover alec (and was merely fortunate enough to catch him early in his ascendancy) i still feel a little proud when his name comes up. in one particularly memorable moment i’d booked him for a solo show at a bookstore where i work. the night of the show i was down the street at my other job, record store (so i’m predictable, what of it!?) and witnessed a kid, probably about 14 or 15 practically beg his dad to be able to stay out to he could see this guy play in a little bookstore. i felt like billy fucking graham!
i tend to agree that if not hammond then someone else–and not ten minutes later, would’ve claimed to have discovered bob dylan. its largely in how you define discovery.
it’s true if nonesuch hadn’t published caetano veloso we in all probability would still know about him. and reading the liner notes to ‘the best of caetano veloso’ david byrne’s sentiments are so reverent and full of curiousity that if anything, he suggess we’re all still discovering caetano. that sounds about right to me.
on the other hand i still consider the label wholly responsible for introducing a white suburban dude from central pa to hamza el din. if my history is correct ‘escalay’ was released in a smaller run before nonesuch picked it up as part of the early explorer series (at least the varying release dates seem to imply this). but the ambition and vision concerning who he was and how important his contribution could be if exposed to people was certainly the work of the label–regardless of who first said “shake hands with hamza el din, oud virtuoso”. in that sense you did discover one. so don’t beat yourself up.
The role of a “true” record label is very important in the music business nowadays. An artist has a very limited amount of time to get recodnized & exposed to the public. He/She is more or less like an athlete. They must have a program & a great coach. Great record labels are created by great people who were involved in this - some says forsaken - business. Take www.petergabriel.com & his www.realworld.co.uk label. He is constantly discovering new voices & he grant them enough room to grow. His new invention is the www.prerecords.co.uk which is fully dedicated to new voices in Pop/Rock/Soft Rock… One of my favorite record label is : www.ropeadope.com I admire them because they are supporting new voices without fear of losing the dough!!! What dough? The “dough” is the “artist”. Keep on recording them & the “dough” has nowhere to go except where it has been coming from.
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I lived the difficulty of “discovery” with my son, James. His voice is so amazing, he won an International Talent Competition, in Estes Park, CO, when he was 15 - beating out competitors ages 12 - 29, from around the world. And, he placed Second, two years earlier, at the age of 13. He performed a season in a Branson show, then signed with a big-name producer. Pursuing the dream, for 7 years, he’s given up with the Producer, and desiring to see if he can “make something happen”, on his own. Since he was 13, I’ve had Record Company Presidents tell me they would sign him, immediately, if he was a girl! And, “Boys don’t sell albums - girls do!” We had no idea how much sex had entered even the arena of selling albums! However, it’s been easier to see, lately. A young lady named Stacie Orrico won the same contest James did, the year before he did, and she was signed, immediately - at only 12 years old! She went on to become a huge pop star. And the young lady he beat in contests a couple of times, as a young teenager, and sang in festivals with - Carrie Underwood - is, of course, now a household name, (he and Carrie are the same age). James is still struggling to make a living, and find an occasional place to showcase his talent. He did have a chance to be a “flash in the pan”, once, when he was 15, and, again, when he was 21, as others had a different vision for him, than what he had for himself. He may have been huge, by now, but he would have had to sell his soul. His dream is to be a soloist - which wouldn’t have happened, with the two opportunities. But, he would have acquiesed, had it not been the other huge compromises. Anyway, we’ve been told he’ll make it, if he just keeps working at it, but we’re beginning to wonder. And, as to the “Discoverer of James” - several tried to lay early claims to that moniker, and have continued to do so, whenever it looked like he was getting close to the next level. If he ever gets there, I’m sure he’ll be an “overnight success!!”