Composer/guitarist Jonny Greenwood is the guest on the latest episode of the podcast Penderecki in Memoriam. He talks with host Max Horowitz about his own compositional work and his connection to that of the podcast's subject, the late Polish composer Krzysztof Penderecki, with whom Greenwood released an album on Nonesuch in 2012. You can hear their conversation below via Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

"For me, an orchestra is a great piece of technology," Greenwood says. "The fact that it's older than a laptop doesn't make it any less relevant. In lots of ways, it makes it far more exciting. Whatever technology we can try and get a handle on and try and learn how to use is worth using. Whether it's a guitar or a voice, we can try."

He later says of his appreciation of Penderecki: "What I responded to is the rule-breaking, partly. It was seeing that just because music is written on paper, it doesn't necessarily have to fit within the confines of written limitations. And suddenly you realize, anything is possible."